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InvaderGIR · Jun 11, 2005, 10:30 PM // 22:30

Y'know, one of the things that's always bugged me about enchantments in the upper left corner is that I never know when they'll be finished. I'd like to suggest that they have a little effect similar to the cooldown for regular skills on your skill list where instead, it'll make a clockwise shadow as opposed to a clockwise lighting up.

Just a thought.

eA-Zaku · Jun 11, 2005, 11:43 PM // 23:43

They start to flash when they're about to disappear.

ManadartheHealer · Jun 11, 2005, 11:44 PM // 23:44

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Originally Posted by eA-Zaku

They start to flash when they're about to disappear.

He means like a little number that says how many seconds (I think)

And, yes, I would like that too

eA-Zaku · Jun 11, 2005, 11:46 PM // 23:46

Enchantments are generally permanent, or else they don't last too long. Usually players get a feel for when they're about to run out simply from using that enchantment for a long time, or based on the skill recharge timer.

I'm not saying it's unnecessary or unhelpful, but truthfully, I don't want to see my nice enchantment/stance/condition icons uglified with a timer

ManadartheHealer · Jun 11, 2005, 11:51 PM // 23:51

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Originally Posted by eA-Zaku

I'm not saying it's unnecessary or unhelpful, but truthfully, I don't want to see my nice enchantment/stance/condition icons uglified with a timer

Make it a toggleable (sp?) option. That way, everyone gets what they want

eA-Zaku · Jun 12, 2005, 12:07 AM // 00:07

/signed

InvaderGIR · Jun 12, 2005, 12:29 AM // 00:29

The only reason I stated this is because every has different stats and therefore affect their enchantments differently. It'd be nice to know how long they last so we can get a strategy thought up ahead of time and make the most out of our enchantments. ^_^

Jazzman · Jun 12, 2005, 01:06 AM // 01:06

Isn't there also items and such that give a chance to increase length of enchantment. How do you know if the length is increased unless there is a timer.
Even if there are not, it's a good idea
/sign

Silmor · Jun 12, 2005, 01:25 AM // 01:25

Signed as well, plenty of enchantments available that outlast their recharge time (Zealot's Fire for instance), and hexes/rituals/conditions on you could do with a timer as well. More verbosity levels on them would be nice: besides being able to see the remaining duration, I wouldn't mind seeing the attribute level they were cast with either (especially useful for hexes), you can currently determine this by hovering over the description and mentally reverse-engineering the values but that's far from practical.

Additionally ctrl-clicking them could be similarly enhanced to provide more information about the effects to your teammates: "I have a level 8 Backfire hex on me! (9 seconds remaining)", "Level 6 Symbiosis ritual is in effect! (75 seconds remaining)" "Level 16 Divine Boon enchantment is maintained on me!" etc.

Ofcourse the lack of info could be part of what constitutes 'skill' in this game - experienced players will know when to optimally recast enchantments and such to save energy; more info could also clutter up the interface, I just think a duration timer wouldn't hurt much if for instance done in a similar fashion as skill recharge (clockwise sweep).

eA-Zaku · Jun 12, 2005, 01:28 AM // 01:28

Valid arguments. But the point I was trying to make (as a farmer who uses Zealot's fire) once you see Zealot's Fire become bold colored again, I think "Oh crap, 30 seconds left. If I can't finish this next mob maybe I should recast Zealot's Fire"

And maybe, just maybe, that's what ArenaNet wants? Because, I'm sure they had the foresight to know that a enchantment timer would have been nice.

Silmor · Jun 12, 2005, 01:42 AM // 01:42

That's what I was pondering about as well (dealing with the lack of info being in part what constitutes player skill). A good healer knows exactly when her Healing Seed runs out, for instance, your example of Zealot's Fire is another clear one. But development time is finite - they could have designed the information to be deliberately limited as you suggest, but it's equally possible for them to have just focused on other things, which would leave this a valid suggestion for whenever they decide to investigate ways to improve the UI.

deathwearer · Jun 12, 2005, 04:06 AM // 04:06

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Originally Posted by ManadartheHealer

He means like a little number that says how many seconds (I think)

And, yes, I would like that too

would be better the "recharge style" of skills

ManadartheHealer · Jun 12, 2005, 05:26 AM // 05:26

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Originally Posted by deathwearer

would be better the "recharge style" of skills

That could work as well (if not better)

theclam · Jun 12, 2005, 05:32 AM // 05:32

/signed

Aaaaagh · Jun 12, 2005, 07:51 AM // 07:51

Good idea.

InvaderGIR · Jun 12, 2005, 08:11 AM // 08:11

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Originally Posted by deathwearer

would be better the "recharge style" of skills

Yep, that's what I meant with "I'd like to suggest that they have a little effect similar to the cooldown for regular skills on your skill list where instead, it'll make a clockwise shadow as opposed to a clockwise lighting up."